Carlos from Spain:
but what I don't like is such looong slow lunches of over 3hrs, that kills me, I end up more tired after than if I was at the gym for 3hrs
That's why I tend to avoid dinner / lunches with too many people when it is among a car activity . Kills everything
BTW ; if you have your dinner at 7 , then you have the whole evening left to do stuff
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964 Carrera 4 -- 997.2 C2S , -20mm -- 991.2 GT3 RS