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Mar 26, 2006 8:58:09 AM

Haku: Pilot; Loc: TN , United States; Posts: 481, Gallery; Registered on: Dec 6, 2005

Terracotta interior / Seats and stuff - help!

I am now confused and need some help.

My interior and seat spec would ideally be for:

- Full leather interior - Terracotta
- Sport Seats (not adaptive)

Dealer has informed me that Sport seats are not supplied in Terracotta. If I want sport seats it has to be the Adaptive Sport seat option. Standard seats and standard power seats are also apparently available in Terracotta.

I'm just surprised why the normal sport seats are not available in Terrac... is the dealer correct?

Your comments on the above plus your opinions on standard/sport/adaptive seats much appreciated.

Although my order is in with the dealer I've been driving my dealer around the bend with all my questions... I cringe when I have to call for more info. So its to the forum for help I'm afraid. My thanks to all.

FYI the rest of the spec for my C4S is:

2007 C4S Coupe
Meteor grey
*Terracotta sport seats- with full leather
Special Leather Terracotta - MB
standard rocker panels painted-XAJ
rear wiper-425
sport chrono plus-640
sport exhaust-XLF
sport shifter-XCZ
19" carrera sport wheel-XRR
wheel caps with color crest-446
TPMS-482
heated seats-342
multi-function wheel-431
extended nav. system-672
bose-680
telephone module - 666
mats

All I want to do is finalise my spec and leave my dealer alone!... before he throws me out! HELP!

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Mar 26, 2006 1:12:45 PM

GA997S: Veteran; Loc: Athens, Georgia, USA; Posts: 1059, Gallery; Registered on: Aug 19, 2005; Reply to: Haku

Re: Terracotta interior / Seats and stuff - help!

Seat thing seems odd but you never know w/ Porsche. It sounds like a really nice spec. though you could easily get colored wheel caps and mats thrown in for free. Save a little $$. Also, I'm not that impressed with the reception of 666... my regular cell phone has much better reception.

Delivered in TN or UK?

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Mar 26, 2006 1:26:46 PM

The Groom: Expert; Loc: EU; Posts: 1779, Gallery; Registered on: Jan 23, 2005; Reply to: Haku

Re: Terracotta interior / Seats and stuff - help!

I'ma afraid your dealer is full of it. I think he's trying to get you to spend more so he gets a larger commission.

The only other explanation is that there might be a shortage of regular sports seats for some reason, but it is definitely not related to the terracotta option. Especially since the leather parts in both kinds of sports seats are identical.

By the way, I strongly advise adding the following leather options:
Rear console in leather - XMZ
Door finishers in leather - XTV
Sunvisors in leather - XMP

Despite its name of "full" leather, the full leather package does not include those 3 parts. In a bright-colored interior such as terracotta, you will definitely see the difference between leather and plastic parts, and wish you had ordered those options. I do think it is worth the extra 2k.

Great spec otherwise!

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Mar 26, 2006 1:29:49 PM

Haku: Pilot; Loc: TN , United States; Posts: 481, Gallery; Registered on: Dec 6, 2005; Reply to: GA997S

Re: Terracotta interior / Seats and stuff - help!

Someone else mentioned the reception issue with 666. Hmmm...

Delivery in TN.

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Mar 26, 2006 1:33:21 PM

rhino: Rennteam Pro; Loc: Island , Saint Lucia; Posts: 2923, Gallery; Registered on: Jan 26, 2006; Reply to: Haku

Re: Terracotta interior / Seats and stuff - help!

Go om the Porsche car config. and you should be able to find out if you can have that color without adaptives.

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Mar 26, 2006 1:39:15 PM

Haku: Pilot; Loc: TN , United States; Posts: 481, Gallery; Registered on: Dec 6, 2005; Reply to: Haku

Re: Terracotta interior / Seats and stuff - help!

Groom, thanks for your input and advice. I'll have a chat with the dealer and see what his explanation is.

Re XMZ, XTV, XMP I just had not considered it... thought full leather meant just that! Thanks for pointing that out. I guess the options list keep on growing ;-)

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Mar 26, 2006 1:46:49 PM

sato: Pilot; Loc: New York, U.S.A.; Posts: 364, Gallery; Registered on: Jan 8, 2005; Reply to: Haku

Re: Terracotta interior / Seats and stuff - help!

The dealer is not correct.

What code is the dealer using for the Sport Seat option?

If he is choosing P77 (Leather Sport Seats) then your leather choices are limited to Black, Stone Grey, Sand Beige, Sea Blue and Palm Green. Also your price will be US$760.

If he is choosing P78 (Sport Seats with Full Leather) then your leather color pallette includes the Terracotta leather. The price, US$400.

This is consistent with the pricing adjustment for the adaptives, which are US$3,055 with standard leather and US$2,695 with a premium leather order.

It is amazing, but a few months back there were many with complaints that dealers insisted you could not order Terracotta leather on the adaptives. Insist your dealer enter the P78 option, or have him contact PCNA for instruction. One rationalization I have heard is that the dealer's order system has various menus, where if the dealer is not aware he can miss a whole list of options tagged as Exclusive or Tequipment, etc.

Hope this helps. Good luck.

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Mar 26, 2006 1:53:45 PM

Haku: Pilot; Loc: TN , United States; Posts: 481, Gallery; Registered on: Dec 6, 2005; Reply to: rhino

Re: Terracotta interior / Seats and stuff - help!

Quote:
rhino said:
Go om the Porsche car config. and you should be able to find out if you can have that color without adaptives.

Rhino I did that but the configurator sometimes allows me to add standard sports seats + terracotta and if I try some other time it does'nt. Strange! Hence my confusion.

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Mar 26, 2006 2:04:37 PM

Haku: Pilot; Loc: TN , United States; Posts: 481, Gallery; Registered on: Dec 6, 2005; Reply to: sato

Re: Terracotta interior / Seats and stuff - help!

Quote:
sato said:
The dealer is not correct.

What code is the dealer using for the Sport Seat option?

If he is choosing P78 (Sport Seats with Full Leather) then your leather color pallette includes the Terracotta leather. The price, US$400.

This is consistent with the pricing adjustment for the adaptives, which are US$3,055 with standard leather and US$2,695 with a premium leather order.

It is amazing, but a few months back there were many with complaints that dealers insisted you could not order Terracotta leather on the adaptives. Insist your dealer enter the P78 option, or have him contact PCNA for instruction. One rationalization I have heard is that the dealer's order system has various menus, where if the dealer is not aware he can miss a whole list of options tagged as Exclusive or Tequipment, etc.

Hope this helps. Good luck.

Sato, forstly thankyou for your detailed explanation. It is a huge help.

The dealer has entered sport seats- P78 with full leather ($400). His comments are based on that option.

I am going to insist he gets his information verified by PCNA because i really would prefer the sprots seats rather than the adaptives as I have sat in them and find them just right for me.

Thanks again.

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Mar 26, 2006 2:43:14 PM

Avantgarde: Senior; Loc: City State; Posts: 708, Gallery; Registered on: Apr 6, 2005; Reply to: Haku

Re: Terracotta interior / Seats and stuff - help!

Your dealer is BS.

My car has full terracota leather with non-adaptive sport seats.

The sport seats are the best decision I've made in the option list, very secure hugging with minimal motors combined with quick fore and aft action release. Lesser electronics such as memory seat settings. Most of all, Lighter weight as well.

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Mar 26, 2006 2:50:05 PM

The Groom: Expert; Loc: EU; Posts: 1779, Gallery; Registered on: Jan 23, 2005; Reply to: Haku

Re: Terracotta interior / Seats and stuff - help!

Just to clarify the various interior options:

Standard: leather wheel, partial leather seats (sides and back are leatherette. Rear seats also leatherette), leatherette dashboard. 4 standard colors available.

Supple leather seats / Leather seats / Sport seats in leather: Adds full leather seats (front and rear).

Full leather interior: Adds leather dashboard, door panels, and the storage compartment between seats. Adds 2 natural leather colors (dark grey and brown), 2 special colors (terracotta and cocoa), 3 bi-color interiors (grey, terracotta, sand, the top of the dashboard and doors being black).

The following parts are NOT included in the full leather interior because they depend on the interior trim (leather, wood, carbon, silver-painted, exterior-color-painted trims):
Door finishers
Cup holders
Air vents
Rear console

The following parts are NOT included because Porsche is too cheap

:
Sun visors
Light surround
Roof liner
Steering wheel column

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Mar 26, 2006 3:19:51 PM

GA997S: Veteran; Loc: Athens, Georgia, USA; Posts: 1059, Gallery; Registered on: Aug 19, 2005; Reply to: Haku

Re: Terracotta interior / Seats and stuff - help!

Quote:
Haku said:
Someone else mentioned the reception issue with 666. Hmmm...

Delivery in TN.

All other features of 666 are fine... If you travel through areas that your cell phone gets a partial signal then car will probably have no service. That's what I've encountered so I'd keep my cell and voice mail but have new # for car forwarded to hand held.

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Mar 26, 2006 3:25:10 PM

Haku: Pilot; Loc: TN , United States; Posts: 481, Gallery; Registered on: Dec 6, 2005; Reply to: Avantgarde

Re: Terracotta interior / Seats and stuff - help!

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Avantgarde said:
Your dealer is BS.
My car has full terracota leather with non-adaptive sport seats. The sport seats are the best decision I've made in the option list, very secure hugging with minimal motors combined with quick fore and aft action release. Lesser electronics such as memory seat settings. Most of all, Lighter weight as well.

The sports seats for me are ideal. I've sat in them and its rare that a seat just feels right... these do and thats why I don't want adaptives or anything else. I'm going to pretty much be the only driver of the car and memory functions and other bits and pieces of the adaptives don;t make much sense to me.

I've emailed my dealer and lets see what he has to say.

Your information much appreciated.

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Mar 26, 2006 3:37:37 PM

Avantgarde: Senior; Loc: City State; Posts: 708, Gallery; Registered on: Apr 6, 2005; Reply to: Haku

Re: Terracotta interior / Seats and stuff - help!

Quote:
Haku said:
The sports seats for me are ideal. I've sat in them and its rare that a seat just feel right... these do and thats why I don't want adaptives or anything else.

Forgot to mention that this is the cheapest seat option saving us dollars that we can invest in other performance goodies.

Just right for us solo drivers with an active and sporty lifestyle.

These seats probably seat lower that the motorized fore/aft versions...I am not sure

but it feels really low though

...which is good

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Mar 26, 2006 5:28:26 PM

muhri: Pilot; Loc: Saudi Arabia , Saudi Arabia; Posts: 389, Gallery; Registered on: Jun 30, 2003; Reply to: Avantgarde

Re: Terracotta interior / Seats and stuff - help!

Like everyone else had mentioned, this is pure BS. I have my car (Basalt Black) with Sports Seat (Not adaptive) in Terracotta with pictures to prove it

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Mar 26, 2006 6:28:46 PM

MMD: Rennteam VIP; Loc: usa; Posts: 9652, Gallery; Registered on: Dec 16, 2004; Reply to: muhri

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I dunno about the terra cotta color. In the not too distant future it may look dated. You know, some car colors don't look very inspiring when you look back 5 or ten years. At least make sure you see it in person before you order it.

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Mar 26, 2006 11:12:33 PM

U Boat Commander: Veteran; Loc: Los Angeles, CA; Posts: 1250, Gallery; Registered on: May 8, 2004; Reply to: muhri

Re: Terracotta interior / Seats and stuff - help!

You should consider the supple leather option as well. For a few hundred bucks you get much softer and nicer leather.

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Mar 27, 2006 1:01:33 AM

The Groom: Expert; Loc: EU; Posts: 1779, Gallery; Registered on: Jan 23, 2005; Reply to: U Boat Commander

Re: Terracotta interior / Seats and stuff - help!

I'm not a fan of supple leather. It might look nicer when the car is brand new, but after a couple of years, it makes the car look older than it actually is.
Especially with sport seats and especially with terracotta (I assume it'll be the same as with the previous Boxster red)

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Mar 27, 2006 1:23:01 AM

MMD: Rennteam VIP; Loc: usa; Posts: 9652, Gallery; Registered on: Dec 16, 2004; Reply to: The Groom

Re: Terracotta interior / Seats and stuff - help!

Quote:
The Groom said:
I'm not a fan of supple leather. It might look nicer when the car is brand new, but after a couple of years, it makes the car look older than it actually is.

red)

Yeah mee too. I finally saw "old" Natural leather and the look of it didn't seem perfect for our sharp, race-y, fast, sleek cars. Looked very nice, but seems more fitting in a luxurious full-size "classically inspired" sedan like a BMW, Bentley or Jaguar.

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Mar 28, 2006 5:57:36 PM

Haku: Pilot; Loc: TN , United States; Posts: 481, Gallery; Registered on: Dec 6, 2005; Reply to: MMD

Re: Terracotta interior / Seats and stuff - help!

Hooray ! The dealer confirmed that they made a mistake and that after checking with PCNA my option IS actually available - P78, regular sport seat with full leather Terracota interior [MB].

My thanks to all who have responded to this thread and provided me with the information I needed to get back to the dealer with.

My spec has been confirmed as:

2007 C4S Coupe
Meteor grey
Terracotta sport seats with full leather - P78 (non-adaptive)
Special Leather Terracotta - MB
standard rocker panels painted-XAJ
rear wiper-425
sport chrono plus-640
sport exhaust-XLF
sport shifter-XCZ
19" carrera sport wheel-XRR
wheel caps with color crest-446
TPMS-482
heated seats-342
multi-function wheel-431
extended nav. system-672
bose-680
telephone module - 666
mats

I am considering adding:

Rear console in leather - XMZ
Door finishers in leather - XTV
Sunvisors in leather - XMP

Am also considering deleting the Rear Wiper.

My thanks once again to all.

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Mar 28, 2006 6:42:02 PM

The Groom: Expert; Loc: EU; Posts: 1779, Gallery; Registered on: Jan 23, 2005; Reply to: Haku

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Congratulations! Your baby will be a real beauty!

Now begins the worst part... the never-ending wait.

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Mar 28, 2006 7:24:31 PM

MattTheCarNut: Pilot; Loc: Austin, Texas; Posts: 329, Gallery; Registered on: Jun 12, 2005; Reply to: Haku

Re: Terracotta interior / Seats and stuff - help!

Quote:
Haku said:
Hooray ! The dealer confirmed that they made a mistake and that after checking with PCNA my option IS actually available - P78, regular sport seat with full leather Terracota interior [MB].

My thanks to all who have responded to this thread and provided me with the information I needed to get back to the dealer with.

My spec has been confirmed as:

2007 C4S Coupe
Meteor grey
Terracotta sport seats with full leather - P78 (non-adaptive)
Special Leather Terracotta - MB
standard rocker panels painted-XAJ
rear wiper-425
sport chrono plus-640
sport exhaust-XLF
sport shifter-XCZ
19" carrera sport wheel-XRR
wheel caps with color crest-446
TPMS-482
heated seats-342
multi-function wheel-431
extended nav. system-672
bose-680
telephone module - 666
mats

I am considering adding:

Rear console in leather - XMZ
Door finishers in leather - XTV
Sunvisors in leather - XMP

Am also considering deleting the Rear Wiper.

My thanks once again to all.

Delete the rear wiper. The rear looks better w/o it. Add XMZ XTV. I'd leave the sunvisors black b/c the alcantara is black.

Sounds like a great car!

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Mar 28, 2006 7:28:24 PM

sato: Pilot; Loc: New York, U.S.A.; Posts: 364, Gallery; Registered on: Jan 8, 2005; Reply to: Haku

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Beauty!

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Mar 28, 2006 11:17:56 PM

The Groom: Expert; Loc: EU; Posts: 1779, Gallery; Registered on: Jan 23, 2005; Reply to: MattTheCarNut

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Quote:
MattTheCarNut said:
I'd leave the sunvisors black b/c the alcantara is black.

Standard sunvisors are still nasty. But I looked into it and found a solution!

Get CVV: Exclusive Bicolor Leather Sunvisors. Spec it with the back side in black and the mirror side in terracotta.
This way, they'll be nice terracotta when deployed, and the black side will blend in well with the black roof liner when not in use.

Problem solved.

Oh, and they only cost $ 100 more than the regular leather sunvisors.

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Mar 29, 2006 12:58:05 AM

sato: Pilot; Loc: New York, U.S.A.; Posts: 364, Gallery; Registered on: Jan 8, 2005; Reply to: The Groom

Re: Terracotta interior / Seats and stuff - help!

Damn! Wish I had found that option when I specc'd my car. May have to be an add-on.

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Mar 29, 2006 10:45:35 PM

muhri: Pilot; Loc: Saudi Arabia , Saudi Arabia; Posts: 389, Gallery; Registered on: Jun 30, 2003; Reply to: sato

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Congrats Haku - Hope you can stand the waiting part !

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Mar 30, 2006 4:14:01 AM

greggr107: Pilot; Loc: San Jose, CA; Posts: 385, Gallery; Registered on: Jul 20, 2005; Reply to: MMD

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Quote:
MMD said:
Yeah mee too. I finally saw "old" Natural leather and the look of it didn't seem perfect for our sharp, race-y, fast, sleek cars. Looked very nice, but seems more fitting in a luxurious full-size "classically inspired" sedan like a BMW, Bentley or Jaguar.

MMD, you're talking about the US $4800/ natural leather interior option there? Reason I ask is because I was considering the natural grey, but haven't seen it after a couple years use.. I understand the supple leather theory, but why would the natural leather age differently than the standard leather?

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Mar 30, 2006 2:49:49 PM

gota911: Newbie; Loc: NC; Posts: 29, Gallery; Registered on: Jan 2, 2006; Reply to: Haku

Re: Terracotta interior / Seats and stuff - help!

Haku - I am new here, but have been on "another" Porsche Forum for a while. I suggest one more option. Get the center arm rest (storeage bin) with either the Porsche Crest (Option code CPT) or the Model Logo (Option Code CUV). Either option is $290. The attached link from Rennlist has a couple of links which show pics of each.

http://forums.rennlist.com/rennforums/showpost.php?p=2917348&postcount=10

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Mar 30, 2006 8:13:08 PM

jimy_q: Junior; Loc: dubai; Posts: 64, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 5, 2006; Reply to: Avantgarde

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Your deal knows nothing... I saw myself trecc. on sport seats...ok. since you are ordering now.. please make sure that you fit well in the sport seats.. i.e go and set in one and stay for 10-15 min., some wide sholdered.. wide body builts felt not comfi. in those ..
coz .. if not and you still wish for the sport you need to consider the adaptive option.

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